Hi Andy
In all the time I have been shooting there has Always been Some Group telling the rest of us what to do and trying to hijack a particular part of our sport.
It would suit some people in goverment's around the world if we as shooter disagree and fall out among ourselves,and I believe there are people in the shooting communities who are working to this end.[Paranoia if you like]
Andy you are part of a great sport ,you have put alot time into 22 benchrest,and benchrest in the UK is strong because of your efforts.
So please stay in the game,and don't be beaten by a few tosser's with there own agenda.
Regards John F.

John makes a good point Andy, I think like you I worry too much & we would be better suited to sit down, shut up & just worry about shooting the target that is put in front of us. I bet you our scores would go up & hopefully all the other stuff will settle down & finds it's own level. Remember the main reason anyone takes up any sport is to enjoy it, winning makes it even more enjoyable.

Hi Bill
Amen to those sentiments.
Regards John F.

Peter,

The WBSF is not some massive organisation. I think that about 29 countries are affiliated.

The first world centrefire benchrest championships were held (in France) in 1989 to NBRSA rules(A large American benchrest association). This continued for about 10 years when we thought it would be a good idea to form a proper 'world' BR federation with international rules.

The Federation now meets every two years at the World Champs. It's just a handful of ordinary guys who are prepared to do something for their sport - and a delegate from each country.

If the WBSF is sailing into conflict with you rimfire guys then please talk about it with the WBSF. I can certainly provide the e-mail address of the WBSF President - which would be a good place to start.

Let's not make waves where they don't exist.

Cheers
Vince

I know this is about rimfire BUT Australia Team A has just WON the World Championship Team Event in South Africa, I believe this is the first time ever America has not won it. "You Bloody Beuty Mate" let the partying begin!

Hya Guys,
I hear what you are saying but maybe now is the time to put the cards on the table and ask some hard questions of people.

THE WBC RULES
It has been some time now since Milan and I know that those delegates having been working on the rules, so where we are at this point in time, how far are they from having something concrete that you can share with the different associations that they in turn can share with its shooters?

If there are problems with some of the rules then why not put it to a vote by the members of the associations i.e. the shooters to help resolve those problems.

Does the Rimfire WBC now have a committee and a chairman, if so who are they?

Is there going to be a website for the Rimfire WBC so that we can see what is going on?

ERABSF
Is this association going to be adopting the Rimfire WBC rules or are they going to have their own?

Will it and other associations be affiliated to the Rimfire WBC?

OTHER QUESTIONS

When will we know what different classes are going to be able to shoot in the ERABSF and the Rimfire WBC?

Is Air Rifle going to be shot at the same event or at separate events and what classes?

What is the next European actually going to be, either a competition for European Countries or as an Open Championship to all?

We are a year away now from the next Europeans and two from the WBC in USA and not a lot has been said apart from behind closed doors, if there are problems then lets share them with those that will be taking part to try and help resolve this so that we can get on with the job in hand.

Sometimes the most complicated things CAN be made SIMPLE with just a little bit of thought.

I look forward to see what answers we may get, this is not to make waves but help put people in the picture, having a plan of action is where you need to begin in most things.

Gatekeeper

Vince,
I’ve known Graeme Smith for over 20 years and we’ve had a few good talks about this and I have a fairly good understanding of what is going on. Graeme told me he was standing down and I haven’t heard who the new boss man is.

What a lot rimfire guys don’t understand, this process for a WBSF world champs was started well before anyone even thought about the WC in Italy last year. But the underlying problem is the way WBSF wants to do this and the end result would be that about half of the groups around the world who have supported international rimfire BR would be cut out of the loop in favour of rimfire groups controlled by current (centerfire) WBSF members and that’s a fact. So naturally some of us are not impressed at the thought of being excluded from something we have strongly supported.

In the end I don’t think rimfire shooters have a problem being under the WBSF banner, it’s just the way the WBSF have structured it is the problem.

Peter

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